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Photography icon Eastman Kodak has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy

Seeded on Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:36 AM EST
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business, finance, photography, bankruptcy, digital-photography, kodak
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The glory days when Eastman Kodak Co. ruled the world of film photography lasted for over a century. Then came a stunning reversal of fortune: cutthroat competition from Japanese firms in the 1980s and a seismic shift to the digital technology it pioneered but couldn't capitalize on. Now comes a wistful worry that this icon of American business is edging toward extinction.

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Calvin Tang

Sad that none of the great minds at Kodak could capitalize on their once-dominant position in the photographic world to become a pioneer - or even a respectable player in the digital age.

  • 4 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:39 AM EST
Buzz of the Orient

And the amazing thing is that they invented the digital camera. My first digital camera was a Kodak.

  • 5 votes
#1.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:04 AM EST
steveoutdoorrec

I worked for kodak for over 27 years until a layoff in '99 and am surprised they have hung on this long with the inept upper management in that company

When digital came along, and yes, kodak researchers did invent it, the "great minds" that ran the company kept tell us that it was a fad and "real" photography was still going to be film. Those of us that worked on the manufacturing floor were all saving up to buy a digital camera because we could see where technology was headed.

The only digital camera they made at the time my fellow employees and I were canned was one aimed at the professional news paper photographer and cost $20,000.

Here's a link to a history of digital photography from a man who worked in the part of kodak responsible for research into that area.

  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:24 AM EST
MalamuteMan

steveoutdoorrec,

I bought a Kodak DCS 420 in 1996 (might have been '97... can't remember) 1.2 Mpx $8500. It was a Nikon N90 with a digital back on it. Used a 300 MB PCMCIA hard drive for storage. It was fun to be an early adopter, but very pricey.

  • 2 votes
#1.3 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:03 AM EST
MalamuteMan

Hi Calvin,

Long time no see... I hope you are well!

FYI- I have personal experience with the syndrome that killed Kodak. The people inside Kodak who were riding the wave of chemical photography thwarted the efforts of their own in-house digital entrepreneurs because they feared competition for their personal corporate kingdoms. There actions brought about their own demise. Something very similar happened in the CAD software business... I created one of the first PC based CAD apps, then struck a deal with Computervision, the largest CAD company in world at the time, to market it. CV died of the same illness that killed Kodak... they were subsequently gobbled up by Prime who was in turn consumed by PTC. Long story... maybe I'll write about it some time.

Cheers,
Mal

  • 2 votes
#1.4 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:48 AM EST
steveoutdoorrec

MalamuteMan: I might have painted that body you bought. I painted parts for just about everything kodak made in Rochester. Some of the models were for Nikon backs and others for Cannon.

It was a great place to work if you ignored how often upper management messed up. One of my supervisors explained it to me. He said that in the management meetings everyone would say variations of "we have a few problems with our processes but are working them out."
What they should have said is that the designers never checked with the people who actually had to build the products to see if there was a process that could do what they imagined and so the product will never come in at cost or on time or actually work as intended.
One new plant manager told us all in a big meeting that moral was high and he expected production to sky rocket. One of my coworkers on the graveyard shift emailed him (at a time when very few people had access to email) to let him know that on the floor moral was at an all time low from badly handled layoffs and restructuring.
His reply was that my coworker didn't know what he was talking about because the manger's underlings had told him the truth. We invited him to come in on the graveyard shift and we'd tell him the real truth with examples.
Never happened. So I'm not surprise they are a dying company.

  • 3 votes
#1.5 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:25 PM EST
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jbirdofthe South

Sad, but that’s how it goes. Companies that had grown rich and beyond from making saddles, buggies, and buggy whips probably thought that there was no way those silly toys folks were calling horseless carriages could ever touch them because they had been in business for a century or more.

  • 1 vote
Reply#2 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:11 AM EST
ambivalent

I am wondering what this will do to Rochester's economy.

  • 1 vote
Reply#3 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:14 AM EST
reddirthippy

No more kodiak moments!

  • 1 vote
Reply#4 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:45 AM EST
ambivalent

Maybe in their "restructuring" they could come up with a decent digital. Duh.

  • 1 vote
#4.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:53 AM EST
reddirthippy

It is sad to see, Oldsmobile, Singer, Kodiak.......

  • 1 vote
#4.2 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:26 AM EST
Buzz of the Orient

Packard, Wardair, Orange Crush...

  • 3 votes
#4.3 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:34 AM EST
reddirthippy

wardair is canadian and had not been around for 100 years.

packard lasted 50 some odd years.

Crush brand is still around

  • 1 vote
#4.4 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:53 AM EST
jbirdofthe South

Typewriters...name any brand you want...GONE. One of the first victims of the digital age.

  • 3 votes
#4.5 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:18 AM EST
Lucien Alexandre Marion

Amazing how time is accomplishing things...

  • 3 votes
#4.6 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:41 PM EST
Buzz of the Orient

Lucien, my friend, I agree that with respect to many advances time is accomplishing things, such as the computer making the typewriter obsolete, but the superb customer service of Wardair was SO superior to the manner in which Air Canada treats its customers today that it is an example of how in at least some cases the "old days" were better times.

  • 3 votes
#4.7 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:15 PM EST
Lucien Alexandre Marion

I sure agree Sir. Lucien

  • 4 votes
#4.8 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:50 AM EST
mightyj

Kodiak lives on but the folks that live there like digital photography. I can't think that anyone could have predicted how for digital resolution and coputing power for image processing would come in such a short time.

The folks at kodak were sneering at bicycles while they made buggies and saddles and the next thing they know a rocket car goes by at 350 miles per hour and they are all put out to pasture with ol Nellie.

I hope everybody that worked there finds a good job.

  • 1 vote
#4.9 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 11:00 PM EST
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TR-421173

:(

  • 2 votes
Reply#5 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:00 PM EST
Fletch-495299

I had a Kodak Digital at one time, it was a good camera. I ended up sticking with Canon as I want the ability to change lenses, something Kodak did not offer.

  • 3 votes
Reply#6 - Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:24 PM EST
MalamuteMan

One of the lenses I use today (on my Nikon) came with the Kodak DCS 420...

  • 3 votes
#6.1 - Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:00 PM EST
Fletch-495299

http://www.nikonweb.com/dcs420/

Was wondering how that was possible till I googled it. It was built on a Nikon N90 body so it had a Nikon lens mount.

  • 3 votes
#6.2 - Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:51 PM EST
MalamuteMan

Yep... see #1.3...

  • 3 votes
#6.3 - Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:01 PM EST
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Dowser

Off subject, but please allow-- I miss you, Calvin. Hope all is well for you!

(((((((((((((Calvin))))))))))))

  • 1 vote
Reply#7 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 12:21 AM EST
mightyj

He has a blog I think. I want the link so I can go over there and check it out. I heard it's an adventure blog. Cool videos and stuff.

  • 3 votes
#7.1 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 11:02 PM EST
Dowser

Neat! :-)

  • 2 votes
#7.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:02 AM EST
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