
Three Amigos, enjoying some stogies provided by Cash.
Mykola, winsomecowboy (looking quite dapper) and Sarmar.
Walt D giving Mykola some friendly advice, and Kymlee being unusually camera aware.
Mykola, keeping Celestina nourished with an ear of corn.
Celestina taking a short pit stop on my shoulder.
The Vinemeet West t-shirts come out, and Myk and Sarmar give us the ''Flatlander'' look.
I found *two* of these things in the woods (winsomecowboy and Walt D).
Mykola ardently protesting *something*, I can''t remember what.
Winsomecowboy gives up on trying to shove a 5-foot log into a 3-foot fireplace.
Lughshand approving of this particular portion of the night.
Cash, playing us.... Johnny Cash.
One thing that stuck me as interesting, is that Cash informed me on the way back that the other Vinemeet attendees were quite nervous to meet each other. Kymlee's recent post confirms this, where she writes,
OkayI guess Ill get my stuff out of the car then Still a little uneasy, I retrieved my belongings and was directed to a room with four bunk beds. Once I staked out a bed, I sat at the table, set up my lap-top and used work as a buffer for my nervousness.
I'm not sure if it was the fact that Cash and I arrived the second day, after the ice had been broken, or if it's just because I'm generally very pleased and comfortable to meet strangers - or maybe it was that most of the people in attendance didn't seem like strangers to me, since I've gotten to know many of you over the past year or so.
In fact, I believe that know more about the core values and personalities of some Newsvine users, than I do those of some friends who I see on a regular basis. Communicating through a written medium and participating in a community where important issues are discussed as part of the norm, really makes for a very developed sense of 'knowing someone', before you actually get to meet them. Still, some of the Newsviners I met struck me as very different than their online personalities.
Mykola is near the top of this list. He's much more quiet and reserved than you'd think, as Walt described. However, if you get enough whiskey in him - the *true* Mykola will start to emerge. Still though, to get the actual online version of Myk, I think we need to invite Phaedrus to the next Vinemeet.
Cash met me at the airport, and I have to say that he's very carefully crafted his Newsvine persona to show a very specific side of his complex personality. I won't ruin it for him by telling you about the rest, because he's worked so hard to achieve his singular status of 'resident purveyor of all things hot-chicks & science'. It's actually quite puzzling that he's been miffed ever since Vinemeet about coming off like a pompous elitist. Hey, when you've got nothing but supermodels and high level science on your column, you can pretty much only expect to be completely understood by me.
I have to admit, I knew little about winsomecowboy's life outside of the Vine till Mykola and Sarmar's visit to Seattle earlier in the week, during which they gave me the dossier on Mr. Cowboy. Not only do I now know exactly how to get his goat (it involves juggling), but I have to say that he's likely one of the most interesting and unique persons I've ever met, and I've met a lot of people. I still can't figure out what his deal was with the fire. He was stuffing all sorts of combustible material into the fireplace, till probably 5AM. Some of it wouldn't even fit, but he tried anyway. Is there sometime you aren't telling me winsome?
Celestina was probably the biggest surprise, and I do mean that in a nice way. First off, I couldn't get used to calling her by her real name, and I don't think I ever will. The reason I think she's a strange case is that most people are actually tamer and less ornery in real life. Celestina on the other hand, was a hilarious person to argue with, a fun person to provoke and generally spoke her mind like I've never seen on the Vine - where she is the ever-sweet, patient lover of all people. Those qualities are still there, but she lets her hair down (and takes the gloves off) in person, which is all the more reason to attend the next Vinemeet she'll be at.
Kymlee is pretty much just how I expected her to be. Smart, nice, thoughtful and opinionated. She had this crazy idea that she would get an interview out of me "after 5 drinks". Well, thank gosh I never had more than 5 the entire weekend! She did snap quite a few pictures of me, and somehow I always seemed to be able to whip out the Blue Steel at the last moment. She told me that I am 'camera aware', so I then began calling her my Biographer, since she was chronicling my life throughout the night with random photos. I still don't think she caught me unaware even once. I'm not sure what that means about me.
Gwenny is as described by the others. If I weren't so short of time in getting to know the others, I probably would've spent 12 hours or so playing WoW with her. She's a gamer from way, way back.... and that is cool. I'm really impressed that she did 12 hours of solo driving just to meet us sorry souls from the other end of the internet pipes.
lughshand and I did not get too much of a chance to chat, but he was definitely the voice of reason, a terrific fellow and a gentleman. Scratch that, he was the *only* gentleman in the lodge. From what I did get to know about him, his experiences in life run very deep and his presence added diversity to the group. It was serendipitous that he was able to make it to Vinemeet, and it was a pleasure to meet him.
Sarmar starts out being just as quiet in real life as she typically is on the Vine. Though, her alter ego appeared out of nowhere and she spent half the night chatty and in an English accent. Despite flying under the radar around the Vine, she knew all of the personalities and the humor behind every Newsvine inside joke. Her best moments were spent taking care of Celestina just until she went off to bed, at which point we then took care of Sarmar. It was like the passing of the torch ;)
Orlando arrived quite late. I can't imagine what it was like to walk into the scene he arrived upon, but he didn't even miss a beat. I remember laughing quite heartily as Kymlee, Gwenny (who is part Native American), Orlando and I were on the couch - all pulling the race card about who should go get the stereo - when Cash finally broke into the conversation and said "I'm the white guy, I'll go get it". It was hilarious. Cigar box in hand, easygoing attitude, I could chill with O.D. anytime.
Walt D is one of the most genuine, fun loving and thoughtful fellas you'll ever meet. He's also the person I think I'd be least likely to meet if it weren't for Newsvine. I can't thank him enough for the work he put into making this thing happen. Not to mention knighting me with Dr. Frank and giving me the task of bringing the chickens back to Newsvine HQ. My only question about him relates to his diet. We had giant steaks for breakfast, lunch and dinner. I guess he likes his protein.
AWESOME. Simple awesome!
Simply awesome, too. Duh.
My only questions relates to his diet. We had giant steaks for breakfast, lunch and dinner. I guess he likes his protein.
For the record, lughsand brought the steaks and I only had one per day (except for day #1 when we had delicious quesadillas for dinner courtesy of Celestina). Besides, all that leftover meat apparently brought great joy to the coyotes.
You didn't tell me it'd be nothing but steak all weekend you @!$%#!
I totally would have robbed my way to the West Coast man!
-Dave
Oh, a couple of steaks, and you're all over it. Walt would have cut a tenderloin from his own THIGH to get you there, you ungrateful...
Walt...the other, other white meat. :)
Well Viki, you know how to assure my attendance next summer.
...We eat Walt. But I hate beans, and wine. So it'll be potatoes and bourbon.
-Dave
potatoes and bourbon. I can manage that. And steak. This is Chicago, after all.
We're having three conversations at once, none of them strictly on topic, and all of them about the same thing.
I do make awesome potatoes though.
-Dave
All I know is that I'll be picking up a drunken Irishman at O'Hare sometime in summer '08, and I'll do that picking up in a '56 Chevy, and then we'll drive around and around the airport until a drunken Pole arrives, and then the three of us are driving on every side road we can find until we arrive at Celestina's doorstep. If we have to stop in Ohio and pick up a couple people, so be it.
And then there's the potatoes and the steak and the shots.
And don't forget to pick Dave up, too....
I've decided to narrow it down to August.
Does that help at all?
-Dave
Yes, that does. So, basically, nearly a year from now?
And Dennis? I hope that means I'll be picking you up as well. That's fine. I'll just park the car and hang out in the international terminal and wait for both your asses.
Can't really say right now, but it's possible.
Hmm. Excuse me while I do a little happy dance just at the possibility.
Imagine what I'll do if it becomes a reality!
I have a place in the city you can stay. ;)
Well, I suppose I have to come back to the Syates eventually. Can't just sit here in paradise all the time.
There are people I want to visit.
*States.
And you know what August is like in Chicago. So, um, come naked.
So, um, come naked.
Um... That's usually how it happens.
You like how I set that one up? Good, huh? ;)
Yeah, it just popped right up.
So I nailed it.
You're lucky Dennis got control of that Viki. It could have blown up in your face.
That's what she said.
GOD. There ya go you smut hounds.
Someone had to say it.
-Dave
You're lucky Dennis got control of that Viki.
I chose not to be too evil.
This time.
Yeah, it just popped right up.
So I nailed it.
Mmm, hmmm. That's what she said.
Great pictures, and welcome to the Holy Order, Sir Calvin.
One question: Did Winsome ever pull out the sleeping bag and give you the narcolepsy line?
Great write up, Calvin. Every time I read one of these, I get more sad that I wasn't able to make it out there.
Sarmar, keeping it balanced by having an apple for every glass of whiskey she drank.
Psch. I see an apple. I see a lighter. I'm assuming the third magical ingredient is hidden away in her pocketses.
Every time I read one of these, I get more sad that I wasn't able to make it out there.
Yeah, the horrors of being broke. Although our Vinemeet had more Viners! Neener neener neener!
One more question: Did Walt play guitar?
One more question: Did Walt play guitar?
We did have an impromptu concert late on Saturday night with Orlando, Kymlee, Myk and Celestina. Kymlee sang a Radiohead song. We all sang Bob Marley. Celestina did some sort of Irish number. Mostly it was just me bashing and howling for hours. On no planet in the universe would it have been considered professional "playing."
Oh, that reminds me.... Celestina, I still owe you a happy dance. D'oh!
At least you had your roomful of drunks.
Mostly it was just me bashing and howling for hours.
Even still Walt was very good. I was half sleep before he started to play and when the sing-a-long started I woke right up. It was a great way to end the night.
Celestina, I still owe you a happy dance. D'oh!
Right. You do. Get there earlier, next time. Like, when I can still stand without assistance...
mmmm Cigars!!1
As long as they weren't Cubans, we don't want any lawbreaking reports turning up later on.
Nah, we only had fauxhibas. :)
I would dispute that, but you will use your awesome universal account powers and delete my comment.
Hey, I'm protecting you by denying that we had anything Cuban at VW.
Cash brought a cache of Swisher Sweets.
That's my boys, a pair of angels in need of tic-tacs, swisher's aren't so sweet on the receiving end.
Gwenny is as described by the others.
If I weren't so short of time in getting to know the others, I probably would've spent 12 hours or so playing WoW with her. She's a gamer from way, way back.... and that is cool.
LOL I was trying to find some common ground. I would have been happier discussing the development of religion (is WoW a religion), the use of Tantra to attain enlightenment, the evolution of society/culture, survival in a post apocalyptic world, herb gardening, Shakespeare, mid 20th century scifi or any of thousands of other subjects but video games seemed to be the only place I can make a small connection with folks.
I used to joke that I was an alien, because none of my people wanted me. I had a long, involved tale about how my family is REALLY from Alpha Centauri and we had come to Earth to picnic and somehow I got left behind and some humans took me in but that I was sure that my family would be back to get me someday . . . it would just take a while, given the whole relativity thing. Sometimes I wonder if I was righter than I thought. lol [stills watches the sky for her real family]
I'm really impressed that she did 12 hours of solo driving just to meet us sorry souls from the other end of the internet pipes.
It was only 8 hours. :D Try flying 4.395 light-years to roast wienies.
Gee, Gwenny, your interests and mine seem to be just about parallel. That WOULD have been fun. Too bad I couldn't make this vinemeet.
Fun times!
Excellent
Vinemeet Europe is in the works
That is wonderful!!! Thank you Calvin. What a great bunch of people... just as I suspected.
Yay!! Great pics, Calvin. Thanks for putting them up :o)
Ah, you guys are beautiful! I love you all even if I wouldn't recognize you on the street. What a great group!
when Cash finally broke into the conversation and said "I'm the white guy, I'll go get it".
That's right, even Republicans are subject to white liberal guilt. It was either that or watch all of you to continue to one up each other on who was more oppressed by ... well ... me.
Walt D is one of the most genuine, fun loving and thoughtful fellas you'll ever meet.
Amen to this. Most of us got to just show up and have no idea how much effort it took.
Looks cool! Where was it, and how do you get invited? :)
Nobody really gets invited. Someone says "Let's have a Meet" and people just show up. So far we've had 0% axe murderers and roughly 99.9% alcoholics. Margin of error: .1 percent.
P.S. I mentioned my newsvine column in class today.
Great photos and a very enlightening write-up, Calvin! Thank you! I look forward to making one of these soon!
Calvin, if you can't be First at least you can be Better. Your write up and pictures are the best ever done of any VineMeet AnyWhere. That Yahoo that set up the First VineMeet never did get around to doing a complete writeup. BTW, if Myk was quiet he must have been ailing. My experience with Myk is he can be quiet for a while but if you get him going he thinks he is giving the Sermon on the Mount.
Thanks OFG! That means a lot, coming from you. I'm really sorry you couldn't make it to Vinemeet West and to Seattle.
I believe Myk was either terribly hung over, or just plain intimidated by my Kavorka (not sure if I used that word properly).
His first 15 minutes at Newsvine HQ were actually quite funny. It went something like this:
*knock, knock*
*Mike D. answers the door*
Mykola: Hi, I'm Myk.
Mike: Uh, hi. I'm Mike.... *puzzled stare*
*uncomfortable silence*
Mykola: Ok, uhm, well... is Calvin here? *totally crushed by the anticlimactic response from Mike D.*
Mike D.: Yeah, he's back there. *Mike D. points down the hallway*
*Myk wanders back toward my office, where I'm in the middle of arguing with Mark and hovers by the door, nervously trying to get my attention without disturbing us.
Calvin: Heeeeyyyy!! Come on in!
Mark: Ok, well, I'll let you guys... *begins to slide right past Myk and Sarmar, avoiding eye contact with strange visitors*
Calvin: Mark, aren't you going to say hello to Mykola?! *incredulous*
Mark: Woah. Oh! My-KO-la!
Whole office: OH, IT'S MYKOLA!
Then Myk was really confused, embarrassed and sheepishly sauntered out to the main room, where he then mumbled a few nonsensical words and was then given his proper Newsvine greeting, before proceeding to get the All-Seattle Tour by yours truly, complete with night-ending quadruple glasses of Irish Whisky.
Wow! And you even got the proper whiskey. :))
That is a hilarious, and easy to picture, account of the meeting between the creators and the users.
Though there's a surprising lack of sex and bestiality. And cussing.
before proceeding to get the All-Seattle Tour by yours truly, complete with night-ending quadruple glasses of Irish Whisky.
So Calvin, does that mean if I show up randomly in Seattle some day I'll get a guided tour by you?
Yes. And we'll be going straight to Seahawks Stadium (I prefer not to call it Qwest Field).
It's a subconscious hate, not a conscious one, so it's not like I'd mind the Seahawks as opposed to the cheating dirty Patriots (may they have to forfeit their game).
Oh, and now I'm tempted. I always wanted to visit the Seattle, now I have an excuse.
Well, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying
Yes, everybody should come visit Seattle! Just don't stay, and don't tell anyone that we have nice weather sometimes.
Calvin - your account of Myk's and Mike's intro is so funny.
Great write up and photos. Sounds like a great meet; good to see real people behind NV identities. Gwenny and Orlando must be camera shy.
Yeah, it's unfortunate that I didn't find any pictures of those two on my camera when I got home. I pretty much took the first few, then my camera floated around the lodge for the rest of the night. I remember at one point picking it up to see that it had a plaid pattern on the screen. I'm not so sure about what had happened to it.
if you get him going he thinks he is giving the Sermon on the Mount.
Jerry, I think that only happens if you dress Myk up like Jesus. 'Course, that was Moses, wasn't it? Nevermind.
Haha, that is basically exactly how it went. I was all set to be brash and cocky somehow that translated into "err, I got the right place, right?". It was great to meet you guys, and big thanks to Calvin for showing us around.
My only regret about Seattle was that by the time Mike hooked up with us later in the evening I was too drunk/jetlagtired to hold up a conversation in the really loud bar, let alone be interesting, charming and manage to plant a subconcious impulse in his head to offer me a cushy job at newsvine "let's call an office meeting to vote on who sells the best pizza" headquarters. Ah well, next time.
Well planted, Myk. Nice work and self-referencial too :)
referential. oops
Hows come youse guyses never tell me nothin'? When da VineMeet Bay Area?
Hey, you know there are at least three of us. We don't need to do a whole Vinemeet . . .but we could do coffee in the City and catch a movie or something. TheJonesGirl is there. I"m in Fremont. It would be cool.
Aiiiight; El Cerrito ; gateway to Richmond?
That sounds pretty good. At least I wouldn't have to drive into the City. :shudder: Not that I would. It's the BART, smelly as it is.
Will you send out some smoke signals for TJG? Are there any other NV Bay Aryans?
Are there any other NV Bay Aryans?
I only know one Asatruar in the Bay Area, and she's WAY the hell up north, not technically Bay Area anymore. I'm not, myself. Too much Pict and Cherokee to even been allowed in a kindred.
Oh you kids and your... copious amounts of booze.
Aww, The internet wasn't designed for drunkeness. It was designed to allow scientists at different universities exchange data sets; it was!..
Macgyvering of an apple.
Mmmmmm, yum! I suspected that might be what that photo was about. *grin*
The one thing Vinemeet Ohio was missing. Well played, sir.
MacGyvering an apple? What did you do, smoke out of it?
You know what, don't answer that.
You know what, don't answer that.
Good choice.
They don't need to answer. I have video.
What did you do, smoke out of it?
I have no idea how anyone could smoke anything out of an apple. What an absurd notion. We did make some cute dinner garnishes, though.
I think I might have tried something like that in HIGH SCHOOL. Hellooooo! Toilet paper tubes and some foil, people. When you're desperate. Anybody who shows up at a party with a...nevermind.
Don't even need the tube.
Just the foil.
Toilet paper tubes and some foil, people.
I was about to suggest that too.
That's on the video too, interesting because I had never heard of it or known people could be so creative - though the number of people asking me not to share the video has climbed to 5, so it will never see daylight.
NO, Cash . .you have a duty as a loyal citizen journalist to further the . . . the . . . damn, I forgot was I was going to use as a pry to that out. LOL Of course, I wasn't involved, so I might have a different POV. I was hiding from tobacco smoke. Being allergic to tobacco is a bad thing these days.
Oh, show the damn video already!
Hey, I would. I am in none of the video and didn't do anything even remotely interesting while there - but the sanctity of Vinemeet privacy must be upheld.
Yeah, you have to attend a Vinemeet to know what actually goes on at them.
*waits for Calvin to throw a Vinemeet in her town*
*waits for Calvin to throw a Vinemeet in her town*
Get planning, these things are Viner run. :D
Hah, I need a job first because there should be sparkly streamers and balloons.
naah Carol. from what I gather, lining up booze is THE only thing to focus on. forget streamers and balloons; they could become dangerous ... ummm ... tools.
I need a job first because there should be sparkly streamers and balloons.
Make other people help. Those of us going to Vinemeet West had not trouble paypaling Walt to get the place. Just be sure you have a really accurate idea of the cost . . I'm thinking Walt didn't ask for enough.
Oh I can't plan it, I don't have enough friends here. It should probably be at the HQ :)
What I'd like to see is 3 to 5 days wherein at least 3 projects are articulated. Some sort of invisible theatre project, a podcast or two, infiltration of some TV morning show or major sporting event [I've always lusted after those couple of seats behind the umpire at Wimbleton, world coverage]
The creation of content afterall is what we do. Surprisingly lucrative too.
having said that and risking being branded a grownup I'd like to profusely thank Walt for setting this one up and state that in the company I kept that there was a brief moment where I was no longer winsome and I'm grateful for that.
I've long wanted to have a go at creating our own MST3K, with some of the notably humorous people here on Newsvine.
Even if we didn't record it, I bet it would be hilarious.
Done to a presedential address would just be friggin hilarious. But with the crew here almost anything could be fun.
A newvine MST3K would be hilariously awesome
LOL If you all decide to do something like this, I DO have a tv show and access to real television cameras AND am friends with the director of Pocahauntus. :D She did a MST3 type tv show for a while called In the Cellar.
Funny, just the other day as I was reading along in some of the threads, I was thinking that Newsviners are funny enough to be writing material for Jon Stewart.
A fine looking crew.
I feel truly let out of this...:o(...sob sob..sniffle sniffle..just because I'm across the Pond!
You guys seem to have had a fantastic time. Well done.
However, I am cheered up to see how gorgeous the guys look! Sight for sore eyes.
Hopefully, one day NewsVine will make me rich enough to attend a Vinemeet :o) ( I can dream!!)
I am cheered up to see how gorgeous the guys look!
Looks like my Kavorka is contagious.
Hopefully, one day NewsVine will make me rich enough to attend a Vinemeet :o) ( I can dream!!)
Alternatively, Vinemeet can come to you! (not saying that Newsvine will never make you rich enough to attend a Vinemeet, mind you)
It seems I am not the only one who recognizes its scientific validity.
Yeah I first heard it from Seinfeld. It's the one where the nun wants to leave the church because she's attracted to Kramer. Apparently he, too, had the Kavorka.
I am SOOO jealous. That 1) my inactivity on the site finally got the better of me, and 2) that as much as I would've liked to come, california is a little bit out of my budget, being a seasonal worker at the moment. But it looks like you all had a lot of fun. I still miss the first vinemeet time to time (mostly when I want tequila and a campfire).
Wow, sounds like you guys had a heck of a time. I am kicking myself for not being able to go. (Is work and school really that important?) But then again, being 19, I couldn't have exactly of participated in *most* of the fun had...!
Great write up, Calvin. Thanks for it, too -- especially for the bit about winsomecowboy being a firebug. Pyros unite!!
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