How To Seed Newsvine Effectively

Thanks for the tips! I definately will use this when seeding from now on.

I'm of the opinion that the field "Your Comment" should really be something like "Your Summary", because I'd much rather read something like

New York's transit workers end strike
The city's mass transit strike ended yesterday after union leaders, facing mounting fines, possible jail terms and the wrath of millions of commuters, voted to return their 33,000 members to work without a new contract.

Than something like:

New York's transit workers end strike
I for one am glad the strike is over, it was really inconvenient!

The difference is - the second example is my personal take on the story (which people dont want to read), while the first gives the "gist" of what someone is about to read, which is very informative.

Okay the green/orange/red thing's gotta be new. I've never seen or known about that. Super cool.

(And I completely agree with Rob: A quick summary of the article is better than a comment about it.)

i think this was very good as i know it has helped me out a bit more now.

Or at least do a summary and then after it do your comment on it.

I forsee the tags feature really being abused once its public. What's to stop users from "spamming" article tags with completely unrelevant tags just in order to get more views?

search before you seed something. there have been quite a few of these, a simple search can stop this.

An entirely minor detail, but it would be helpful if the text field for "Your Comment" was larger.

Now, if something was seeded earlier and didn't get much attention should we reseed it? Or is it unlike Digg where if it's old yet gets new votes we can bring it back to the frontpage? Or would it be considered old news and reseeding it would do nothing?

Another thing slightly unrelated: being able to follow seeded articles not only by tags, but also by author. It makes sense that, after a little bit of time, one will find people with affinity for certain subjects, and following the author rather than the tag could be very useful. Being able to search auhors more easily would be helpful too.

I know that it's considered OK to do self promotion and that you will be having autoseeding of blogs thru feeds, but my question is, what constitutes a good seed to my own blog?

Right now my current posting method on my blog is to do a quick recap of an article, include the relevant text, and then have my commentary below it. So it's a bit of an article mashup, ocassionaly combining 3-5 sources. Should I seed this? Or should I only seed 100% original content from my blog?

You can check it out at http://earthsentinel.com to get a better idea.

Thanks,
Nick

Just wrote my own post about duplicates and then saw this. So I have maybe duplicated a discussion in a discussion of duplicates... Didn't know about the red/green thingy before. Seems cool if it works.

Nevertheless, I've found some dupes that were the same link seeded more than once. I pointed out the urls of an example in my posting on the subject, of the Engadget coverage of Macworld. The same link was seeded more than once, dividing up discussion. Others I've seen were AP stories, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt that those came from different sources.

For me as a user, the best way to seed Newsvine is to be out there on the interweb itself reading stuff and then seeding it back to Newsvine. I imagine, though, that method causes lots of dupes. Maybe there's some value to the headlines/descriptions that people attach to their dupe seeds? Maybe those could be aggregated in one place, along with the discussion of the article?

I get it now. Looks like the system doesn't recognize urls as duplicates when the same url comes with www (http://www.engadget...) and without it (http://engadget...).

Might want to look into that. But at least duplicates are going to be limited to two as is.

I believe we need a way to _edit— a seed. Because the "headline / link" order doesn't jibe with how my brain works, I reversed them on my second "seed." I could find no way to edit the "non-linked seed" -- so I recreated it correctly. However, neither can I find a way to _delete— the first one.

My big question is: how can you tell whether an item you're looking at has been seeded already? Or picked up by the automated syndication? I wouldn't want to create duplicates on the site.

You actually can edit your seeds, but the link is a bit difficult to find. Go into the main seed itself, and in your "user bar" just above the article, you should see a link that says "click here to edit this link."

Hello Calvin,
Thanks a bunch for the reply and a link here, highly appreciated! :D
Have tried seeding some news, and the color headers worked brilliantly. Thanks again.

When seeding, is there a way to determine commonly used tags? For example, I would hate to tag something with 'ie' when the tag 'internet-explorer' is more common.